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Campus Deportations
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Campus Deportations

About Mahmoud Khalil, Rümeysa Öztürk, due process and free speech.
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Today’s disagreement is about the recent campus deportations, due process, and free speech.

We focus on the two most high-profile cases:

  • Mahmoud Khalil: a green card holder, legal resident, and graduate student at Columbia University who had a leadership role within CUAD, which stands for Columbia University Apartheid Divest.

  • Rümeysa Öztürk: a graduate student at Tufts University who is a student visa holder. She co-authored an op-ed in the campus newspaper supporting a resolution to divest from Israel.

We also briefly touch on the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case and President Bukele’s recent visit to the oval office.

The Questions

  • Is there a legal basis for these deportations and what are the implications for free speech and due process?

  • What does it mean to be an American?

    • What kind of country do we want to live in?

  • Are these deportations “good for the Jews?”

The Guests

Graeme Wood is a staff writer for The Atlantic and a lecturer in political science at Yale University, where he has taught since 2014. Graeme has been a Press Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a visiting professor at the University of Pennsylvania, and a fellow at the United States Naval Academy.

Ilya Shapiro is a senior fellow and director of constitutional studies at the Manhattan Institute. He writes a Substack called Shapiro's Gavel and his new book is called Lawless: The Miseducation of America’s Elites.

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