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Campus Deportations
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Campus Deportations

About Mahmoud Khalil, Rümeysa Öztürk, due process and free speech.

Today’s disagreement is about the recent campus deportations, due process, and free speech.

We focus on the two most high-profile cases:

  • Mahmoud Khalil: a green card holder, legal resident, and graduate student at Columbia University who had a leadership role within CUAD, which stands for Columbia University Apartheid Divest.

  • Rümeysa Öztürk: a graduate student at Tufts University who is a student visa holder. She co-authored an op-ed in the campus newspaper supporting a resolution to divest from Israel.

We also briefly touch on the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case and President Bukele’s recent visit to the oval office.

The Questions

  • Is there a legal basis for these deportations and what are the implications for free speech and due process?

  • What does it mean to be an American?

    • What kind of country do we want to live in?

  • Are these deportations “good for the Jews?”

The Guests

Graeme Wood is a staff writer for The Atlantic and a lecturer in political science at Yale University, where he has taught since 2014. Graeme has been a Press Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a visiting professor at the University of Pennsylvania, and a fellow at the United States Naval Academy.

Ilya Shapiro is a senior fellow and director of constitutional studies at the Manhattan Institute. He writes a Substack called Shapiro's Gavel and his new book is called Lawless: The Miseducation of America’s Elites.

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