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Episode 15: White Privilege
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Episode 15: White Privilege

Does white privilege exist? Is it a useful concept?
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Today's disagreement is on White Privilege in America. To work through this issue, we’ve brought together two experts: a conservative philosopher and an anti-racist activist.

The Guests

Jason D. Hill is a professor of philosophy and the author of five books, including most recently What Do White Americans Owe Black People: Racial Justice in the Age of Post-Oppression. He holds a Ph.D. in philosophy and has been a professional writer and author for more than thirty years.

“We have to be very careful that Black people are not made second-class citizens to their own self-interest.” – Jason D. Hill

is the founder of The Barnraisers Project, which is committed to organizing majority-white communities for racial and social justice. He is also the author of the popular Substack newsletter , and recently released a memoir called The Right Kind of White.

“What are the current hierarchies that prop up some folks and don't prop up other folks? … I'm interested in the story of race in America.” – Garrett Bucks

The Questions

  • Does white privilege exist?

  • How does it interact with other forms of privilege, like class and gender?

  • Is it a useful concept politically and culturally?

Show Notes

  • 3:09 - Defining white privilege

  • 6:22 - White working class critique

  • 12:44 - Black excellence

  • 15:04 - American individualism vs. communitarianism

  • 16:41 - Black immigrant experiences

  • 19:15 - On Robin DiAngelo

  • 22:58 - Left and Right class critiques of racial privilege

  • 25:11 - Intersectionality

  • 28:19 - White saviors

  • 33:02 - White guilt

  • 36:34 - Steelmanning

Further Reading

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The Disagreement
The Disagreement w/Alex Grodd
Two experts. One contentious topic. A different kind of conversation. Hosted by Alex Grodd.