Today’s disagreement is on The Ethics of Having Kids.
Two experts who made different life decisions come together to disagree about whether having children is still ethical given the existential risks facing humanity today - from climate change to the global fertility crisis.
The Questions
In the age of climate change, is it more ethical to have kids or not have kids?
What are the costs and benefits of either choice when the reality of our shared future is unknown?
What does the pro-natalist movement and its policies get right and wrong?
The Guests
Heather Houser is a professor of English Literature at the University of Texas at Austin. A cultural critic and author of the book Infowhelm, Heather is an expert on climate change and feminism.
Liz Bruenig is a staff writer at The Atlantic, where she writes about theology, politics and policy. Previously, Liz was an opinion writer for The New York Times and The Washington Post, where she was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Writing.
Mentioned in this Episode
Berg, Anastasia. Weisman, Rachel. What Are Children For? On Ambivalence and Choice. Published June 2024. MacMillan Publishers.
Bruenig, Liz. “Why Bother to Have Children in a World Racked by Climate Change?” Opinion Piece, Washington Post, October 10, 2018.
Houser, Heather. “Infowhlem: Environmental Art and Literature in an Age of Data.” Published June 2020. Columbia University Press.
Show Notes
02:22 - Ethics of Having Children in a Climate Criss
05:04 - Personal Perspectives on Parenthood
07:50 - Philosophical Considerations, Suffering & Harm
16:30 - Is Not Having Kids Even Helpful in Combating Climate Change
19:17 - Global Fertility Crisis
23:41 - Our Cultural Shift: Kids as Choice
28:40 - Thoughts on The Pro-natalist Movement
30:22 - Religion and Pro-natalism
31:50 - Alternative Approaches to Pro-natalism
34:20 - The failures of Pro-Natalist Policies
37:34 - Personal Reflections on Having Kids, and Not
44:42 - Steelmanning
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The Disagreement Team
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