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The Telepathy Tapes, Autism, and the Paranormal
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The Telepathy Tapes, Autism, and the Paranormal

Is telepathy real? How should we understand truth, skepticism and the world’s most popular podcast?
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Today’s disagreement is on The Telepathy Tapes, Autism, and the Paranormal. If you’re not familiar, The Telepathy Tapes is a podcast that launched last fall, and quickly became a cultural phenomenon. By early January, it was the number one podcast in the country. Today, it’s still in the top ten. Its core thesis is quite provocative: there are non-verbal autistic young people who possess telepathic powers and are able to read the minds of their parents and teachers.

In this episode, we use The Telepathy Tapes podcast as a springboard to ask some big questions about science, skepticism, and the nature of truth.

To have this conversation, we’ve brought together a journalist and a religious scholar with very different approaches to understanding the truth.

The Questions

  • Is telepathy real?

  • How should we evaluate the claims in the podcast The Telepathy Tapes?

  • Do these claims adversely affect–even harm–the autistic young people being celebrated?

The Guests

Zaid Jilani is a journalist whose work has appeared in The Intercept, News Nation and Alternet. He writes about politics and culture on his Substack: The American Saga.

Jeffrey Kripal is the J. Newton Rayzor Chair in Philosophy and Religious Thought at Rice University and the Associate Director of the Center for Theory and Research at the Esalen Institute. Jeffrey is also the author of thirteen books, including most recently, How to Think Impossibly.

A Note About Facilitated Communication

In The Telepathy Tapes, the nonverbal autistic young people use a controversial method to communicate with the outside world. It’s called “facilitated communication.” There is an adult that helps to facilitate the young person’s communication—usually through some form of touch and holding a letterboard that the young person point to. We get into this in-depth on the podcast.

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